#title: FFII invites OpenForumEurope to explain how text patents benefit open source software #descr: Open Forum Europe is lobbying the European Parliament in the name of %(q:open source companies) in order to make software directly patentable and to ensure that interoperable software may not be written. We invited Graham Taylor of Open Forum to explain. An short dialog followed, in which Taylor presented himself as naively well-believing about the meaning of what he signed and reluctant to repair the damage. #erW: Answer to Answer of Graham Taylor #all: Dear Mr. Taylor, #nns: At %(URL) you find news about how your initiative, Open Forum Europe, is providing invaluable help to the community of industrial patent lawyers in their effort to push the European Parliament to legalise program claims, business method patents and restrictions on interoperability. #aen: The signatories of the %(q:Joint Statement), among them you as a representative of the open source software community, are sending their appeal to all members of the European Parliament (MEPs) in an attempt to create the impression that the OSS community or its more reasonable part (i.e. people like you) trust the European Patent Office and want patents to be enforcable against programmers or ISPs who publish an infringing text on their website. #thn: I would find it very interesting to hear you argue in what way the demands which you are advocating could be beneficial to the constituents of your organisation. #tWo: Could you perhaps come to the %(EVT) and explain your point of view? Which of the panels in the Conference, as proposed so far, do you think would be most suitable? #ntW: Software Patent Hearing & Conference in/at the European Parliament on May 7.-8. in Brussels #uie2: Yours sincerely #jes: In an answer on Apr 28th, Mr. Taylor declined our invitation and offered a dialogue in writing. We ansered immediately, as below, and have so far not received further mails: #hei: But that's not the central point here. #ros: There is no difference between the US practise and that of the European Patent Office, as far as software is concerned. #eWt: Just look at the patents granted by the EPO on the basis of the rules which MEP McCarthy wants to codify: #olu: Again the proposal which you endorse achieves the opposite of what you say is your goal: it makes sure that interoperable software can neither be published or used without a license. #ejW: Your belief is wrong, the opposite is true. #iap: See our analysis at %(URL) and the tabular comparison of proposal and amendment proposals at %(PRP) #daW: It would have been a good idea to consult the internal eurolinux list, to which I am cc-ing, before speaking about patent legislation in the name of the opensource community. #iWm: We cannot let the impression that %(q:the oss community is split on patents) stand. It must be wiped out forcefully in one way or other. Damage could be turned into benefit. #tWo2: What would you propose? #iel: Sincerely #eWW: Redhat Inc criticises Open Forum Europe and restates its support of the FFII/EuroLinux position on software patents. It remains unclear who the other members of OFE are and whether they support the position of Graham Taylor. #mWu: James Heald reports about statements made by a representative of Open Forum Europe at a booth. When questioned by critical visitors, this representative pretended to be politically naive and misinformed the public about the positions which OFE had supported. #tnc: Graham Taylor makes things only worse by saying that he did not claim to represent the open source community. Taylor indeed signed the patent-extremist %(js:Joint Statement) as %(q:Graham Taylor, Open Forum Europe Programme Director, Initiative to accelerate the market take up of Open Source Software), and even in his excuse letter he insinuates that he is speaking for %(q:hard business interests) of his constituents in his function as a promoter of open-source software. #tce: Bruce Perens points out that Graham Taylor can only speak for himself: No real OSS community leader would speak to politicians about such a sensitive subject without consulting other people in the community. #pWe: UK Conservative MEP Malcolm Harbour, a relay of industrial patent lawyers in the European Parliament, supports Graham Taylor's demands for extension of patentability beyond the scope of the European Commission's proposals, explains that he has met Graham Taylor and that Graham Taylor does not claim to represent the OSS community. #yfq: The website says %(TXT) We found NO member list (which is kind'a strange for an %(q:open) organisation). #thn2: mentions %(q:those organisations who contributed to the work during the 3 month prelaunch period included Caldera, Citibank, Compaq, the Financial Times, GBdirect, Globix, IBM, Identrus, IT Direct at Lloyds, Reed in Partnership and the DTI.) ... hardly representative of Open Source. One could even imagine that OFE was created to have a controlled %(q:open source) organization in order to be able to misrepresent the community. #Wfo: %(e:The Register) about founding of OpenForumEurope #nfe: Says that it is backed only by large corporate and institutional members, most of whom do not use opensource software, and membership fees are from 3000 pounds upwards. Other sources from UK say that OFEu promotes not only software patents but also rigid copyright laws and proprietary software. #Wef: Positions in the current JURI discussion. Graham Taylor took sides for the most extreme patent inflationist of these positions # Local Variables: ; # coding: utf-8 ; # srcfile: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/phm/sys/mlht.el ; # mailto: mlhtimport@ffii.org ; # login: phm ; # passwd: YYYYY ; # feature: swpatdir ; # dok: swxofeu034 ; # txtlang: en ; # multlin: t ; # End: ;